When Sorrows Come
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- Author：Seanan McGuire
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Reviews
Liz （Quirky Cat）
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It's here！ Toby's wedding is finally here！ I bet we all thought that moment would never come around， huh？ When Sorrows Come is the fifteenth （！！！） novel in Seanan McGuire's October Daye series。 This series is by far my favorite fae series to date。tPeople like October Daye don't ever really catch a break。 Even when off on the wedding of her dreams， Toby still ends up working。 But let's take a step back。 The wedding is finally here， though Toby got a very short notice on the matter。tHowever， not a It's here！ Toby's wedding is finally here！ I bet we all thought that moment would never come around， huh？ When Sorrows Come is the fifteenth （！！！） novel in Seanan McGuire's October Daye series。 This series is by far my favorite fae series to date。tPeople like October Daye don't ever really catch a break。 Even when off on the wedding of her dreams， Toby still ends up working。 But let's take a step back。 The wedding is finally here， though Toby got a very short notice on the matter。tHowever， not all is well in the High King's Court。 So before the wedding can proceed， Toby will once again find herself bloody and neck-deep in politics。 Just what she wanted。 But as long as the wedding still happens， all will be well。t"I spent enough time very bitter indeed to understand that clinging to joy when I find it is the most essential thing in the world。"tPardon me as I squeal for five minutes。 I don't normally freak out about weddings， but Tybalt is one of my favorite characters， so I am tickled to death that Toby is finally marrying him。 That fact， combined with the long build-up， made When Sorrows Come such a welcome sight。tTo be honest， I really wasn't sure what to expect from the wedding。 Was Toby going to get her happily ever after？ Was something going to happen to cause a split？ I knew that something would happen – I can't think of a single book where Toby didn't end up covered in her own blood， after all。tAs such， I pretty much went into When Sorrows Come with little to no expectations。 I was still blown away。 The politics， the scheming， the endearing moments！ It was all so much， and it succeeded in making me smile on more than one occasion。tYes， this is a wedding novel; that much is obvious。 But it is a wedding that is very much Toby's。 By that， I mean it is complicated and messy， with all her friends and family gathered around。 Throw in a few bonus Tybalt scenes， and it is no wonder that I loved this book。t"If monarchs are that much against being overthrown， they shouldn't do things that would make it seem like a good idea。"tIf you haven't been reading the series up until this point， you won't have the faintest idea of what is going on。 But if you're a fan of the series， please do take the time to read When Sorrows Come。 And when you're done， read the attached novella， And with Reveling。 You won't regret it。Read more reviews over at Quirky Cat's Fat Stacks 。。。more
Jim Mason
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Well， that was the most violent cozy mystery I have ever read This was a wonderful book， full of love， acceptance and stabbing。 It really felt like a hug from Seanan， and I will not disclose the number of times it made me cry in joy。
Sbrodwater
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HeartwarmingFinally October and Tybalt get married and Toby realizes her family is even。 bigger than she hoped for。 Absolutely love Seanans writing！！
Alex Shepherd
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Like many others who came here， I was。。。not exactly disappointed by this installment， but it fell short of my expectations and high hopes。 Let me preface by saying I adore this series。 I love the characters and the world and the snarky female lead and up until this point I have been drooling and anticipating this release。 HOWEVER， like a few others， when I finally got it I was disappointed by Toby's dive into whining and self-pity for a big chunk of the book。 All the writing advice I read on ser Like many others who came here， I was。。。not exactly disappointed by this installment， but it fell short of my expectations and high hopes。 Let me preface by saying I adore this series。 I love the characters and the world and the snarky female lead and up until this point I have been drooling and anticipating this release。 HOWEVER， like a few others， when I finally got it I was disappointed by Toby's dive into whining and self-pity for a big chunk of the book。 All the writing advice I read on series is "each book should stand on its own" so I KIND of get， and can give a pass on， the amount of backstory and repeat worked into this book， but I would be a lot more forgiving of it if it were the 2nd or 3rd book in the series。 Seriously， if you're starting this series with number 15， no amount of backstory is going to catch you up， so it was unnecessary。 I agree this could have been a novella。 It could have been a really GOOD novella， if the unnecessary fluff was cut， but it wasn't a full novels-worth of content。 I am loyal to this series and will finish it come hell or highwater。 Here's hoping - and I say this with all affection for Toby and the gang， and to the mastermind behind her story。 。。。more
Bonnie McDaniel
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This is the 15th installment of one of the longest-running （and few remaining） urban fantasy series out there。 We are following the adventues of October "Toby" Daye， a half-human half-Fae changeling who was once cursed by her liege lord to be a fish for fourteen years， who fights and stabs and bleeds and solves mysteries and upends kingdoms， and generally makes herself a pain in the ass to all the high Faerie muckety-mucks。 There is a great deal of complicated worldbuilding in these books， so mu This is the 15th installment of one of the longest-running （and few remaining） urban fantasy series out there。 We are following the adventues of October "Toby" Daye， a half-human half-Fae changeling who was once cursed by her liege lord to be a fish for fourteen years， who fights and stabs and bleeds and solves mysteries and upends kingdoms， and generally makes herself a pain in the ass to all the high Faerie muckety-mucks。 There is a great deal of complicated worldbuilding in these books， so much so that lately the author has been taking the first several pages of each book to recap all the things the reader absolutely has to know before continuing with the story。That's all right， when the character's voice is as engaging as Toby's is。 And this book is a pivotal point in the series， as Toby is finally getting married to her love， Tybalt the King of Dreaming Cats。 Of course， it wouldn't be an October Daye story without an attempted assassination and coup and a great deal of blood- （and in this case， ichor-） spilling。 But once again Toby saves the day--this time， with the help of several members of her adopted family--and at the climax of the book， she and Tybalt are indeed wed。As is customary with each new book， a bonus novella is included。 Most of the time these focus on other characters， but the novella for this book， "And With Reveling，" serves as an epilogue to the main story， focusing on Toby and Tybalt's wedding reception and seeding several plot developments which will probably come into play in future books。 I hope this series can continue its run for a while yet， even though the urban fantasy boom is over。 （Maybe because this series has， for several books now， been focusing more on the deep lore and complex worldbuilding of Faerie， relying more on the "fantasy" and less on the "urban，" is one of the reasons it's still here。） Also， I think it helps that McGuire's publisher， DAW， seems to be one of the few SFF imprints still putting out normal-sized mass market paperbacks？ （I buy my share of hardbacks as well， but I simply do not like those tall narrow clunky things that many times these days serve as "paperbacks。"） In any event， when the next book comes out I'm sure Toby will be back to her usual blood-soaked mayhem， but it was nice to see her have a chance to slow down and be happy。 。。。more
Heather McLaughlin
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Wow， this really feels like the end of the series， which Ms。 McGuire assures us it is not。
Jonah
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Another fantastic installment。 Felt like a well deserved victory lap for Toby， and sweet to boot。
Taylor
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4/10October “Toby” Daye is finally getting married to Tybalt， the love of her life。 For the wedding， she and a retinue of friends and family travel to Toronto， the fae seat of power in North America。 But Toby realizes something is very wrong in the High Court。 Shortly after her arrival， she foils an assassination attempt on High King Aethlin。 Now Toby and her companions have to root out the instigator of a coup before it overthrows the monarchy and destabilizes the Westlands。 "Blundering into tr 4/10October “Toby” Daye is finally getting married to Tybalt， the love of her life。 For the wedding， she and a retinue of friends and family travel to Toronto， the fae seat of power in North America。 But Toby realizes something is very wrong in the High Court。 Shortly after her arrival， she foils an assassination attempt on High King Aethlin。 Now Toby and her companions have to root out the instigator of a coup before it overthrows the monarchy and destabilizes the Westlands。 "Blundering into trouble isn’t my superpower， but it might as well be。" Review， content warnings， and series spoilers below。Content warnings for the book: Depicted — Death， violence， self-harm。 Mentioned— Incest （kinda）， genocide， mind control， abuse。 I’m sad to write this review， as I consider myself a fan of McGuire’s work。 But this is the first October Daye book I’ve outright disliked。 It’s got big problems， and highlights recent issues with the series that I can’t ignore anymore。 Maybe it’s wrong to be critical of When Sorrows Come， because it’s clearly meant to be a fanservice book。 Toby and Tybalt， after much teasing， are finally getting married。 It’s got the most snarky tone of the series。 There’s lots of discussion about the inevitable drama and bloodshed that’s bound to complicate things。 Toby and friends do what they do best: solving problems and getting stabbed in the process。 As a whole， it’s a semi-comedic romp with characters you’re doubtlessly familiar with by now。 But the whole time I was reading it， I couldn’t help but notice all the filler and think， for the third time in recent books， “Wow， this should have been a novella。” Lower stakes adventures aren’t a bad thing; I’m not saying every entry needs to be an earth-shattering thrill ride。 But in the latter half of the series， several books feel phoned in。 Once Broken Faith （#10） and The Unkindest Tide （#13） have stock plots， throwaway villains， and conflicts that （seemingly） don’t impact the overarching story。 I feel that both would have worked better as novellas， addressing the big Lore Stuff in each while avoiding the filler plots。 Major developments aren’t necessarily tied to the main novels; just look at January’s resurrection。 Unfortunately， When Sorrows Come fits into this category as well， featuring a generic assassination plot that feels tacked on at best。 On its own， I probably wouldn’t care。 But since it’s the third in a trend， and has additional problems， I’m apprehensive about where the series is headed。 I do have some positive things to say about When Sorrows Come。 The snarky tone and self-aware quips are pretty funny。 There’s a joke early on about “working for a queen” that actually made me laugh out loud。 Many beloved characters show up， and while some cameos are expected， others are honestly surprising。 As always， The Luidaeg is wonderful。 I’m happy that Walther continues to be important， as it’s rare to see good trans rep in media。 While there’s side character bloat， I generally like the recurring ones， so it’s not so bad。 Though I wish they got more individual attention。 There’s a little character development with Quentin， exploring his complicated relationship with Aethlin and Maida。 It makes sense that he’d be resentful toward his parents， since they literally abandoned him and cut off all social ties— even though we know mind control was to blame。 So it’s nice to see that bit of extra depth。 This also ties into “mother” vs “mom” and “father” vs “dad”， which is a running theme in the book。 Aethlin himself fluctuates between the level-headed leader we’ve seen previously， an idiot for the sake of plot， and a complete asshole。 But since this is the first book to really focus on him， I’ll chalk it up to “hidden depths” and move on。 I did like some worldbuilding stuff。 The concept of New York City being literally poisonous to Faerie is interesting。 There’s mention of the few who manage to live in what is basically the fae version of nuclear fallout; that’s a great premise if we ever explore it in the future。 I also like encountering a Library again， since they haven’t been relevant for a while。 The one in Maples is atmospheric and much different than the one in the Mists。 It’s a shame that this book retcons a major detail about Libraries， rendering the conflict in Chimes At Midnight （#7） nonsensical。 When Sorrows Come genuinely gets good around Chapter 18。 It was at this point， over 80% through the book， that it finally felt like the series I know and love。 This is exactly why I think a novella would have worked better— because I had to trudge through hundreds of pages to get to the stuff that matters。 This section features the lead-up to the wedding， the wedding itself （+ some series-appropriate complications）， and finally the reception novella， “And With Reveling”。 I liked the part where Toby has to pick one of three roads and discovers Simon is her escort to the wedding。 While his appearance in When Sorrows Come is brief， his scene functions as a touching “how far we’ve come” found family thing。 The bonus novella has minor problems， but I enjoyed it as a fluffy epilogue for the book。 But the negatives outweigh the positives for me。 I know I’ve been throwing the word “filler” around a lot， but it’s egregious。 The plot feels shoehorned in because the book “needed” a conflict; it has no effect on the conclusion， except for an incident during the wedding that could easily be reworked。 When Sorrows Come is full of filler on a micro scale， too。 One example: we spend a solid two and a half chapters （1） identifying that a room is booby trapped， and （2） getting stuck in the booby trapped room and trying to get out of it。 Despite there being an obvious way out， which was demonstrated in a previous chapter。 Or Toby will summarize— in detail--something we literally just read。 Or there’s the excessive amount of recap。 I’m not kidding when I say the first 60 pages consist of series recap dumps and barebones setup。 If we’re at the point where we need dozens of pages to summarize the story， wouldn’t it make more sense to have a skippable “story so far” section？ Or limit the exposition to relevant information？ I hate skimming stuff， but as someone familiar with the series， I was tempted。 There’s emotional character moments I swear we get every single book now。 Tybalt being upset that Toby put herself in danger followed by some touching make-up scene。 Toby being sad that someday Quentin， who she considers her son， is going to leave her and become High King of the Westlands。 Some lines about how the terrifying Luidaeg is somehow a merciful， even kind person despite her tragic backstory。 I dunno， man。 These were meaningful the first time I read them， but they get rehashed so often they’ve lost all impact。 Other scenes feel melodramatic， like Tybalt giving a passionate speech to Maida about how Toby is the most amazing woman he knows and sacrifices so much to help the Divided Courts。 All while Toby is just like， bleeding into a jar as a favor to the woman so she doesn’t die。 Maybe that’s a big ask for a normal person， but Toby bounces back from so many horrific injuries each book that this over-the-top reaction to a blood donation borders on parody。 Many plot points rely on idiocy。 No one thinks to use readily available Tuatha portal magic to escape the booby trapped room。 Early on， someone dies from contact poison… which everyone promptly forgets is a thing until it becomes relevant again。 Toby and Aethlin go to interrogate a shapeshifting prisoner which can transform into anyone it sees， but bring Tybalt， whose hands are deadly weapons。 These aren’t the only examples。 The royal guards are incompetent， but at least that gets an explanation— though it’s weird that the most powerful court in North America is paralyzed without Toby’s intervention。 Finally， When Sorrows Come has big editorial issues， exacerbating all its other problems。 There are sentences that were clearly mid-edit， but never got completed， so you end up with something incomprehensible。 Others are grammatically correct， but phrased in such a confusing way that I had to reread them several times。 Sometimes known information is presented as a total mystery， or retconned， or stuff gets repeated verbatim。 One of several continuity errors is Toby telling Tybalt， with heartfelt sincerity， that she didn’t run headlong into danger without him… a chapter after she did exactly that。 It’s not presented as an intentional lie， and Toby isn’t a duplicitous character。 It’s an error。 Mistakes absolutely happen， but there are so many in this book that it feels like an early draft。 I’m not sure if When Sorrows Come was rushed out the door， or the editor barely checked it， or what。 I’m fond of this series; my frustrations come from a place of passion。 October Daye is a daunting 15 books long， and I feel like it’s running out of steam。 Toby is now so powerful and beloved that nothing feels like a real threat。 90+% of the bad things that happen in this series can be traced to Eira or Amandine… so what conflicts we get are rarely surprising。 There’s still a few plot threads （the missing Queens， whatever is going on with Stacy’s bloodline， maybe Riordan？）， but are they enough to hang another 5？ 10？ books on？ We have at least 2 more confirmed with no end in sight。 I’m concerned about future quality with this series， which is sad， because I know McGuire is passionate about it。 Maybe there’s a Winter Long-style shakeup waiting in the wings that will make me eat my words。 I genuinely hope that’s the case; I want October Daye to be the best it can be。 But it’s hard not to feel discouraged。 。。。more
Terrell Brown
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Loved every minute and did not want it to end！ Now the wait for the next novel begins anew。 😭
Nancy
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tSeanan McGuire releases an October Daye book every September and 2021 was no exception。 This year the volume is titled “When Sorrows Come” and is the long-awaited wedding of Toby and Tybalt！ After all of the trials and tribulations they have gone through in the last fourteen books， it’s very satisfying to see them finally get to this point。tOctober Daye， Toby， is a hero of the realm in the Kingdom in the Mists。 She’s been engaged to Tybalt， the King of Cats， for a while but something keeps happ tSeanan McGuire releases an October Daye book every September and 2021 was no exception。 This year the volume is titled “When Sorrows Come” and is the long-awaited wedding of Toby and Tybalt！ After all of the trials and tribulations they have gone through in the last fourteen books， it’s very satisfying to see them finally get to this point。tOctober Daye， Toby， is a hero of the realm in the Kingdom in the Mists。 She’s been engaged to Tybalt， the King of Cats， for a while but something keeps happening to delay the wedding。 Her family finally ambushes her with a wedding date and take her to the High Court in Toronto。 However， as a Hero of the Realm， trouble seems to follow her everywhere and she’s caught up in a plot to overthrow the High King himself。tI love the October Daye series so I am thrilled with the regular releases that McGuire keeps to。 The wedding itself fulfilled all of my expectations and the trouble that Toby got herself into was perfect for the plot。 I was so happy and pleased to see how much Toby has grown into herself from the first book。 There was quite a bit of reminiscing in this volume， but as always McGuire wrote it so you could just pick it up without reading the rest of the series。 I love this series though and highly recommend you read the whole thing！ 。。。more
Misty
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I just love this series。 I still stand by my opinion that Toby and Tybalt's relationship was underdeveloped in the series， however I still love them as a couple。 They both changed to be better people for each other while completely accepting one another， faults included。 Tybalt won't back down where Toby's eating disorder is concerned （constantly and lovingly reminding her to take care of herself， making sure there's always good she enjoys at hand， etc） but he accepts that she's going to purpose I just love this series。 I still stand by my opinion that Toby and Tybalt's relationship was underdeveloped in the series， however I still love them as a couple。 They both changed to be better people for each other while completely accepting one another， faults included。 Tybalt won't back down where Toby's eating disorder is concerned （constantly and lovingly reminding her to take care of herself， making sure there's always good she enjoys at hand， etc） but he accepts that she's going to purposely piss people off and fiercely fight for the people she loves。 Her accepts that she'll put herself in harm's way over and over again， asking only that she recruit backup and try not to die。 I really love that。 ***Spoilers***I also love that Quentin and Raj both called her mom！ I love that Sylvester and Simon show up at the wedding！ And Julie and Gilly。 It was such a sweet book！ It could've used Dianda though; I love how fucking of the wall bloodthirsty she is。 。。。more
Susan
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Glad Oberon didn't take the focus of Toby's wedding。 Glad Oberon didn't take the focus of Toby's wedding。 。。。more
Theresa
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I liked this one。 The ending was maybe a bit abrupt but I'm not really here as much for the single-book plot anymore。 （view spoiler）[I'm a little sad that Fiac turned out to be someone else because I liked that character。 Also， he made comments about the seers being killed off and had opinions about Amandine and I am now really curious to know if he had studied the person he was imitating and spouting the opinions of that character or if he had additional personal knowledge of what's going on th I liked this one。 The ending was maybe a bit abrupt but I'm not really here as much for the single-book plot anymore。 （view spoiler）[I'm a little sad that Fiac turned out to be someone else because I liked that character。 Also， he made comments about the seers being killed off and had opinions about Amandine and I am now really curious to know if he had studied the person he was imitating and spouting the opinions of that character or if he had additional personal knowledge of what's going on there。 （hide spoiler）] 。。。more
Jenn
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I really enjoyed this， as I have every book in the series， but I do see the increasing pressure to include enough of the backstory so that someone could pick up the book and read it without having read the prior books。 I would rather she cut that out， and let people just fill in through context， or just go back and read the other books。It is clear we're headed towards ***spoilers***Toby finding and retrieving Maeve and then Titania， and discovering why Amandine prepared her so much。 Perhaps a re I really enjoyed this， as I have every book in the series， but I do see the increasing pressure to include enough of the backstory so that someone could pick up the book and read it without having read the prior books。 I would rather she cut that out， and let people just fill in through context， or just go back and read the other books。It is clear we're headed towards ***spoilers***Toby finding and retrieving Maeve and then Titania， and discovering why Amandine prepared her so much。 Perhaps a redemption of Amandine？ I also suspect one or both of the Queens may be hiding in plain sight， as Oberon was。I'm looking forward to his big reveal to the rest of Faerie。。。Thinking we're leading to a Quentin abdication， so he can stay with Dean and not have to produce an heir with the "clear bloodline" they talked about so much in this book， and so he can stay with Toby， so I suspect we'll be meeting his sister soon， or finding out we already have。 。。。more
Hannah Krueger
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Seanan point blank said that this was the book she wanted to write for Toby （the wedding book） because we’re all in the middle of a pandemic and fuck it， we could use a feel good book。 Plus， the bonus novella at the end is the wedding reception。 I don’t really remember the core assassination/overthrow attempt of this book because while it provides conflict， it’s not really the focus of the thing。 Also family drama with Quentin that will probably inevitably come back into play down the line， and Seanan point blank said that this was the book she wanted to write for Toby （the wedding book） because we’re all in the middle of a pandemic and fuck it， we could use a feel good book。 Plus， the bonus novella at the end is the wedding reception。 I don’t really remember the core assassination/overthrow attempt of this book because while it provides conflict， it’s not really the focus of the thing。 Also family drama with Quentin that will probably inevitably come back into play down the line， and something about one of her changeling’s friends children that will also come into play later。 But， it’s a nice deep breath/indulgent book。 Yes， there is still the trouble of having to remind everyone who everyone is because we’re fourteen books deep， but honestly I didn’t remember a solid third of the people here so I’m fine with it。 Come for the wedding drama， stay for the blood。 Oh god so much blood。 。。。more
Eric
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Wonderful。
Kyle Kesatie
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Another enjoyable addition to the October Date series！
Lianyu Tan
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This series is like reading crack; addictive and moreish。 I occasionally search for another author that gives me the same feels as Seanan McGuire and her pennames but never find it。I love Toby and her misfit friends， and also how far she's come since book 1。 I'm really going to miss them when this series ends。 This series is like reading crack; addictive and moreish。 I occasionally search for another author that gives me the same feels as Seanan McGuire and her pennames but never find it。I love Toby and her misfit friends， and also how far she's come since book 1。 I'm really going to miss them when this series ends。 。。。more
Kelli
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Full of angst and way too much review of past books and didactic explanation of social issues。 Plot and character development were enough for a very short novella， not a full length novel。
mimo
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Yeah。 I'm as surprised as you are by that rating。Or maybe not。 As I've said in my reviews of earlier books， this series starts meh and gets good。。。 and then， I guess， it turns repetitive。 Probably somewhere around book 11， if I'm honest， but I've been generous with my ratings because I figured my own binge-reading might have something to do with my perception that the storylines and prose were getting tired or stale。Here， on the 15th book， I can't deny that the series has probably gone on longer Yeah。 I'm as surprised as you are by that rating。Or maybe not。 As I've said in my reviews of earlier books， this series starts meh and gets good。。。 and then， I guess， it turns repetitive。 Probably somewhere around book 11， if I'm honest， but I've been generous with my ratings because I figured my own binge-reading might have something to do with my perception that the storylines and prose were getting tired or stale。Here， on the 15th book， I can't deny that the series has probably gone on longer than it should have。 Which is a pretty significant statement， given that Toby and Tybalt get married in this book， and I'd been rooting for them since the start。 This book is mainly about their wedding， the main obstacles to which are Toby's tendency to run away from good things， and a whole insurrection plot that she manages to foil while Tybalt illogically （but thankfully） refuses to defer their marriage - I mean， dude， it's not like matrimony is going to protect her from harm。 Another symptom of this series running long for urban fantasy is the sheer amount of exposition and background context that the narrative gets bogged down by。 Sure， it's helpful for new readers， or returning readers who need a refresher。 But it seriously feels like half the book is just recapping or referencing other events。 Sometimes， it wasn't even necessary to do so， and having characters bring up thorny history made them sound out of character。 Relatedly， for all the complexity that exists between characters by this point in the story， their dynamics often feel flat， like a parody of themselves。 When the main appeal of a series is its ensemble of characters， and then they start to feel less real， it's hard to keep liking the books。Surely this series will come to a close soon， though。。。 。。。more
Heather
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While the mystery was somewhat underwhelming， the wedding was perfect。 And the novella at the end， featuring the reception， was also perfect。 Why it was added as a separate novella is beyond me， as it seems to me it should’ve been officially part of the wedding story。 I guess binding them together makes it so？ Anyway， this was a long time in coming， and very worth the wait。
Stephanie
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This is the book where Toby and Tybalt finally get married。 No that is not a spoiler as that is right on the blurb of the book and in the acknowledgements which are at the front。 What would be spoilerery would be to talk about the path to that wedding。 As one would expect with October Daye， there is intrigue， plots and blood - so much blood。The story starts out innocently and changes fast and then the action is non-stop。 The ending is what we all have been waiting for and the book is very satisf This is the book where Toby and Tybalt finally get married。 No that is not a spoiler as that is right on the blurb of the book and in the acknowledgements which are at the front。 What would be spoilerery would be to talk about the path to that wedding。 As one would expect with October Daye， there is intrigue， plots and blood - so much blood。The story starts out innocently and changes fast and then the action is non-stop。 The ending is what we all have been waiting for and the book is very satisfying。The novella at the end really should have been the last chapter of the novel and is great fun and very interesting。Now that they are married I think we all are anxious to just what adventures they have upcoming。 I suspect Tybalt is not looking forward to them as much as Toby is。 。。。more
Chris Fielding
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Excellent novel。 I'm glad she included the short novella afterward， since it helps to tie up many loose ends and made When Sorrows Come even more satisfying。 Excellent novel。 I'm glad she included the short novella afterward， since it helps to tie up many loose ends and made When Sorrows Come even more satisfying。 。。。more
Alexander Keane
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I love McGuire's Toby Daye series。This one involves Toby and Tybalt arriving to the venue of their wedding only to get dragged into hijinks ensuing involving an attack on the faerie high king。 Stabbing ensues。 I love McGuire's Toby Daye series。This one involves Toby and Tybalt arriving to the venue of their wedding only to get dragged into hijinks ensuing involving an attack on the faerie high king。 Stabbing ensues。 。。。more
Heather
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Toby and Tybalt go to Toronto to get married。 Of course， something goes wrong。 There is discontent brewing in the High King's realm， which threatens to interrupt the nuptials。 Will they get married by the end of the book？ Of course。 Will Toby get blood on her wedding dress？ Maybe。 Read it and find out。Definitely read the accompanying novella， And With Reveling。 I understand why it was cut from the novel， but it contains lots of payoff for the side characters in the main story。 Toby and Tybalt go to Toronto to get married。 Of course， something goes wrong。 There is discontent brewing in the High King's realm， which threatens to interrupt the nuptials。 Will they get married by the end of the book？ Of course。 Will Toby get blood on her wedding dress？ Maybe。 Read it and find out。Definitely read the accompanying novella， And With Reveling。 I understand why it was cut from the novel， but it contains lots of payoff for the side characters in the main story。 。。。more
Zoey
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This review has been hidden because it contains spoilers。 To view it， click here。 Far less bloody and angsty than expected， which I appreciated。 And Toby and Tybalt do finally get to tie the knot！ The only “complaint” I might have is that everyone calls anyone younger than them “kid” every other page。
Eclectisism Incarnate
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I can see why others have had some specific critiques where this one is concerned， but I actually enjoyed a less stressful story （life is stressful *enough* at the moment， a break from faux stress is very welcome）。However， I don't understand the number of people who have an issue with the short story。 It's clearly a separate story。 Obviously not unrelated， but definitely separate。It's also possibly one of my favorites。I can see so much being set up。 Single lines had me biting my nails from the p I can see why others have had some specific critiques where this one is concerned， but I actually enjoyed a less stressful story （life is stressful *enough* at the moment， a break from faux stress is very welcome）。However， I don't understand the number of people who have an issue with the short story。 It's clearly a separate story。 Obviously not unrelated， but definitely separate。It's also possibly one of my favorites。I can see so much being set up。 Single lines had me biting my nails from the possible implications。I just loved the whole thing。 。。。more
Josh
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I really enjoyed this one。 It's definitely on the lighter side of things， and in the annals of The October Daye Saga， it's probably not all that consequential， despite the magnitude of Toby's wedding to Tybalt being at the center of everything that's going on。 But it's really fun。 And frankly， I was ready for some fun。There's loads of fun banter between Toby and many characters that we know well: the Ludaieg， Tybalt， May， Quentin， and a billion more， including some of Toby's oldest changeling fr I really enjoyed this one。 It's definitely on the lighter side of things， and in the annals of The October Daye Saga， it's probably not all that consequential， despite the magnitude of Toby's wedding to Tybalt being at the center of everything that's going on。 But it's really fun。 And frankly， I was ready for some fun。There's loads of fun banter between Toby and many characters that we know well: the Ludaieg， Tybalt， May， Quentin， and a billion more， including some of Toby's oldest changeling friends。 Toby finally seems comfortable in who she is and her place in things， along with her ability to use her magic and that confidence （while occasionally amusingly bratty） has been awfully hard fought over the years。 That's nice to have。There's a lot to simply enjoy in this book and a lightness that basically hasn't been in any of these novels。 Toby's had the hardest of slogs to get here， with amazing amounts of pain and terror and tragedy heaped upon her， including a load of responsibility that's both handed to her and self-imposed often unfairly。。。so I feel like she deserves this。I'm very fond of this series and this character， and it's nice to see a tale that's less dire and more fun （even with some serious and important stakes）。 。。。more
Kate
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2。5 ☆ Finally Toby gets hitched。 This could have easily been at least 60+ pages shorter because we get the 101 what has happened in the last fourteen books for October。 I did not need the repeat to be honest if you have lasted for fourteen books you are a fan and know what has happened。 A novella would have been best for the wedding etc。 The plot was more of a sideline than anything else。
Carolyn F。
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